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be better, but you'd also only make it around the track 2 laps versus 15. I have never seen a set of the massives in person, so I don't feel comfortable making a rec for them without personal data. My INTUITION is that they are too DEEP, but I have not seen datalogging of IC inlet/outlet temperatures on them. I have datalogged the HKS and the Stillens, so I have a basis for suggestion there. SS
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